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Y&R: Eric Braeden Out? Vixen Headed back to GC?; via Nelson Branco
Topic Started: Jun 26 2012, 02:48 PM (8,170 Views)
ideal_rain
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Leisha
Jun 27 2012, 07:03 PM
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Jun 27 2012, 02:00 PM
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Jun 27 2012, 02:54 AM
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Jun 27 2012, 01:47 AM
I disagree about SN, I think he fits and he is not a newbie, he has been on longer than this newest bunch of boring newbies. The Tucker character fits and I wish some how he and Jack would end up being friends. I am disgusted that they didn't keep Ashley and let her Tucker work things out. Victor has done worse to Ashley.

What they need to stop doing is bringing on people without giving viewers a chance to get used to them before over loading the screen with even more unnecessary characters. Get rid of boring Sarge, DW, DM, stop bringing back characters already written off. S.H. has been back one too many times as Patty. We don't need Amber again, stop bringing them back!
Tucker just doesn't fit in, to me. He has no chemistry with most of the people he shares story with (Ashley, Abby, Katherine). He has some with Harmony but then the writers turned that into a trashy tryst. Stephen Nichols just walks through his scenes.
I also wish there was more Tucker and Sophia scenes. I really like them when they are plotting together. It actually makes Sophia interesting b/c otherwise I don't see why she's on the show!

I don't mind EB taking a break from the show. All he does right now is same ol same ol obsessing about one company, disapproving everything, and throwing threats around like a basketball.

Doesn't anyone feel that w/o Jess Walton, the show is really missing something?? I can't wait till she comes back!!

...and please NO Amber! I can't stand her at all.
Absolutely! Jill Katherine and Jill, and the Chancellors as an anchor family, is(are) sorely missed even before Jess Walton left, but now it's even more glaring. They are throwing poor old Kay where-ever, marrying Nick & Phyllis, well ok then.

Sometimes I think TIIC believe that because they are older they don't have a young following, They couldn't be more wrong. My kids and their friends were quite attached to them. Quite a few young people in the demo Y&R wants the most were very into: Jill & Katherine's fight over the home, young Billy passed out in the snow, young Billy & Mac, Brittany with the baby, (they still remember Jill being sweet with Brittany's baby when she was alone-LOL) Katherine and Mac in the homeless shelter. They just loved Larry and liked when Jill was found to be Katherine's daughter.

Then Gloria arrived and it drove them away. :lol: I like Gloria but they gave her too much play, and mostly with the older characters Micheal, John & Jack. She wasn't involved like Jill & Katherine was with the younger crowd. Jill and Katherine do funny as well as drama, and I think that's attractive to a younger audience.

Katherine & Jill were a major part of Y&R in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and in 2000s until MAB, so all generations of Y&R viewers know them and know them well, except the newest ones., It looked like MAB was giving them story until they re-cast Tucker. All of the sudden Tucker was diverted to the Abbotts with Ashley, and Jill was a Fenmore.???????? The Chancellors have been sitting in purgatory ever since. Jill & Katherine live together and share family but really don't participate in each others life, it's odd, and unnatural after all these years. I keep forgetting Devon is related to Katherine.
I'm a 'younger' (29) viewer but love Kay, Jill and Nina scenes because I actually do research and know the history. And the actresses are the best. Give me Kay and Jill scenes over Phyllis or Sharon scenes anytime!

How awesome would the Ronan storyline be with an infuse of Kay and Jill? Or Jill being concern about her sister, who is a murder suspect? Have Kay and Jill met new Fen? Why don't these characters have storylines? :soapbox:
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ideal_rain
Jun 26 2012, 03:48 PM
Sammie Jo
Jun 26 2012, 02:56 PM
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Jun 26 2012, 02:48 PM
Eric Braeden out due to Contract negotiations


Here we go again: According to set side sources, Y&R is writing out Victor
Newman during Eric Braeden’s tumultuous contract negotiations around
August. “It’s not going well,” says a mole. “The sticking point isn’t necessarily
money but his guarantee.”
In order to keep Braeden in line this time around (he bolted two years ago in a
story I broke for TV Guide.ca and went on a media blitz prompting Braeden to
embark on a media blitz tour after he refused to take a pay cut), the show
decided write off TGVN in a surprising, inventive way that may redeem the
controversial Shictor debacle. But don’t quote me on that until I see how it
translates onscreen.
This probably explains why Braeden decided to attend the Daytime Emmy
Awards, which he hasn’t done in forever, to increase his profile during this
uncertain time.
Stay tuned to UNCENSORED for more on this developing story. And yes, I’m
experiencing déjà vu again.

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See! I KNEW IT!
They made Victor be a total ass just like they did last time at contract time so that nobody would care if he left. They did it again with this absurd Sharon SL which was just the final nail after the ridiculous Billy vendetta.
I hope he doesn't leave but, without EB, Y&R is a wasteland for me.
The only two people I would ever accept as playing Victor would be Tom Selleck or Sam Elliot, guess what the chances of that happening are?
But how many times has Eric Braden pulled this same stunt?

'I hate the show, so I'll threaten to leave. Oh, wait, I need a job so I won't really leave. I'll just pout a lot.' :tumbleweed:

For me, Victor Newman isn't Y&R and actually I think the show might improve if the character left for a while. The writers and Braden have boxed the character in so there's not many things left to explore.

I definitely wouldn't mind Sam Elliott on the show or since he was actually 'killed' off on Days, Joseph Mascolo might be looking for a job.

There must be other, better, actors in his age group that would love a steady gig. I'm not suggest a recast for Victor but a new character or a different character recast would a welcome relief from Braden pouting every six months.
They brought in Tucker the last time EB was supposedly leaving, and look how well that turned out!!!. Those of you who have not watched Y&R from the beginning don't know how great EB can be. It's not his acting that's the problem, it's the damn writing!!! I don't think the writers these days know how to write for soap operas!! They don't understand the drama and emotions that go in to these storylines. They don't know how to write scenes that leave the viewer wanting MORE!!!!! New writers on a show should be required to watch episodes from the shows beginning to see what real writing is all about!!
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eruell
Jul 6 2012, 11:13 PM
ideal_rain
Jun 26 2012, 03:48 PM
Sammie Jo
Jun 26 2012, 02:56 PM
Daytime
Jun 26 2012, 02:48 PM
Eric Braeden out due to Contract negotiations


Here we go again: According to set side sources, Y&R is writing out Victor
Newman during Eric Braeden’s tumultuous contract negotiations around
August. “It’s not going well,” says a mole. “The sticking point isn’t necessarily
money but his guarantee.”
In order to keep Braeden in line this time around (he bolted two years ago in a
story I broke for TV Guide.ca and went on a media blitz prompting Braeden to
embark on a media blitz tour after he refused to take a pay cut), the show
decided write off TGVN in a surprising, inventive way that may redeem the
controversial Shictor debacle. But don’t quote me on that until I see how it
translates onscreen.
This probably explains why Braeden decided to attend the Daytime Emmy
Awards, which he hasn’t done in forever, to increase his profile during this
uncertain time.
Stay tuned to UNCENSORED for more on this developing story. And yes, I’m
experiencing déjà vu again.

Link
See! I KNEW IT!
They made Victor be a total ass just like they did last time at contract time so that nobody would care if he left. They did it again with this absurd Sharon SL which was just the final nail after the ridiculous Billy vendetta.
I hope he doesn't leave but, without EB, Y&R is a wasteland for me.
The only two people I would ever accept as playing Victor would be Tom Selleck or Sam Elliot, guess what the chances of that happening are?
But how many times has Eric Braden pulled this same stunt?

'I hate the show, so I'll threaten to leave. Oh, wait, I need a job so I won't really leave. I'll just pout a lot.' :tumbleweed:

For me, Victor Newman isn't Y&R and actually I think the show might improve if the character left for a while. The writers and Braden have boxed the character in so there's not many things left to explore.

I definitely wouldn't mind Sam Elliott on the show or since he was actually 'killed' off on Days, Joseph Mascolo might be looking for a job.

There must be other, better, actors in his age group that would love a steady gig. I'm not suggest a recast for Victor but a new character or a different character recast would a welcome relief from Braden pouting every six months.
They brought in Tucker the last time EB was supposedly leaving, and look how well that turned out!!!. Those of you who have not watched Y&R from the beginning don't know how great EB can be. It's not his acting that's the problem, it's the damn writing!!! I don't think the writers these days know how to write for soap operas!! They don't understand the drama and emotions that go in to these storylines. They don't know how to write scenes that leave the viewer wanting MORE!!!!! New writers on a show should be required to watch episodes from the shows beginning to see what real writing is all about!!
EB is an amazing actor, he wouldn't have lasted some 30 years on the same show if he wasn't, or been the topic of so many debates. I doubt he's "pouting" because of money, the man has made millions, he does have the right to "pout" over shitty scripts every two years, he doesn't "pout" every "6 months" though.
Used to be, when the hour was up, I'd go, oh nooooo, now I'm looking at the clock about halfway through to see how much more I have to watch.
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Tucker has fit in just fine. Totally agree about the writing. Every character on the show suffers from lousy writing. I have watched Y&R in the earlier years and while EB has had his moments he is not the end all be all to Y&R. Don't want him gone though, just more balance and less of him on screen.
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They will be insane to let Eric Braeden walk out the door. Eric B. is a fabulous actor. And Victor is a victim of poor writing like the other characters on the show. Y&R is a mess, and the last thing that they need is to let another good actor walk out the door. They've already lost Eileen Davidson to DAYS. So, they can't afford this. M Bell/H Sheffer have written this show into the ground like the writers have with their other Sony counterpart.
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On another note, I hope that Amber isn't the so-called vixen returning. Never have liked the character and am ecstatic that her airtime has been lessened on B&B. But, I wouldn't put it past them to send her back to Genoa City.
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Skye and Chelsea remind me of each other......
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lazydazes
Jul 7 2012, 09:01 AM
On another note, I hope that Amber isn't the so-called vixen returning. Never have liked the character and am ecstatic that her airtime has been lessened on B&B. But, I wouldn't put it past them to send her back to Genoa City.



I agree I was not ever an Amber fan at all. She is not needed in GC.
Edited by Alexandria, Jul 7 2012, 10:39 AM.
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Hummmm...yet down the road spoilers now say Victor leaves town. Gee, wonder why.
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Jul 8 2012, 11:39 AM
Hummmm...yet down the road spoilers now say Victor leaves town. Gee, wonder why.
he's on vacation, no clue as to how they'll mangle a sl for that. lol
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Jul 7 2012, 09:00 AM
They will be insane to let Eric Braeden walk out the door. Eric B. is a fabulous actor. And Victor is a victim of poor writing like the other characters on the show. Y&R is a mess, and the last thing that they need is to let another good actor walk out the door. They've already lost Eileen Davidson to DAYS. So, they can't afford this. M Bell/H Sheffer have written this show into the ground like the writers have with their other Sony counterpart.
It would be insane, and Jill's gone too. I don't know what they are thinking.

I realize they don't care about viewers as old as my mother, but she's home and could watch daily. She's been turning it, then shutting it off after about 5 minutes for over a year now. But last week she watched because of Paul. Paul isn't even her favorite but she missed seeing him, and combined with the historical story, the show felt more familiar to her. But it went off again after July 4th, she will not accept that new Chancellor family they saddled Katherine with. She (and I) would take Amber/Cane over Yolanda/Devon with Katherine any day. The Kay/Jill as mother daughter may not have been popular to all on the boards but she just loved, loved, loved Katherine as Billy,Canes and Phillip3&4's grandmother.

If Victor goes that would be it. With this crappy writing they really need to keep their historical figure heads, Victor/Nikki, Jill/Kay, Jack & at least 1 his sisters since they killed John. I think their may be plenty of viewers checking in on the show be it online or on TV to see if it's improved. I know the actors are getting older but they should just reduce their screen time. If they make writing changes and the familiar cast is gone it's going to be too late.
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Jul 8 2012, 01:39 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 11:39 AM
Hummmm...yet down the road spoilers now say Victor leaves town. Gee, wonder why.
he's on vacation, no clue as to how they'll mangle a sl for that. lol


I think it has less to do with vacation and more to do with contract. Not buying the robotic statement from his press corp. If he's only gone one week it wouldn't matter. They could easily shoot around that and still have him on screen.

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Jul 8 2012, 04:15 PM
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Jul 7 2012, 09:00 AM
They will be insane to let Eric Braeden walk out the door. Eric B. is a fabulous actor. And Victor is a victim of poor writing like the other characters on the show. Y&R is a mess, and the last thing that they need is to let another good actor walk out the door. They've already lost Eileen Davidson to DAYS. So, they can't afford this. M Bell/H Sheffer have written this show into the ground like the writers have with their other Sony counterpart.
It would be insane, and Jill's gone too. I don't know what they are thinking.

I realize they don't care about viewers as old as my mother, but she's home and could watch daily. She's been turning it, then shutting it off after about 5 minutes for over a year now. But last week she watched because of Paul. Paul isn't even her favorite but she missed seeing him, and combined with the historical story, the show felt more familiar to her. But it went off again after July 4th, she will not accept that new Chancellor family they saddled Katherine with. She (and I) would take Amber/Cane over Yolanda/Devon with Katherine any day. The Kay/Jill as mother daughter may not have been popular to all on the boards but she just loved, loved, loved Katherine as Billy,Canes and Phillip3&4's grandmother.

If Victor goes that would be it. With this crappy writing they really need to keep their historical figure heads, Victor/Nikki, Jill/Kay, Jack & at least 1 his sisters since they killed John. I think their may be plenty of viewers checking in on the show be it online or on TV to see if it's improved. I know the actors are getting older but they should just reduce their screen time. If they make writing changes and the familiar cast is gone it's going to be too late.
Killing off John was their biggest mistake EVER!
Letting Ashley go, even though she annoys me half the time, is another mistake, Jill, if she doesn't come back, is even a worse mistake. These people ARE the show, they are the core!
Who knows how long Jeanne Cooper is going to hang on, and if Victor goes, they might as well shut down.
I don't know what they're smoking over there but it's not the good shit!
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Jul 8 2012, 04:52 PM
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Jul 8 2012, 01:39 PM
SchaNich
Jul 8 2012, 11:39 AM
Hummmm...yet down the road spoilers now say Victor leaves town. Gee, wonder why.
he's on vacation, no clue as to how they'll mangle a sl for that. lol


I think it has less to do with vacation and more to do with contract. Not buying the robotic statement from his press corp. If he's only gone one week it wouldn't matter. They could easily shoot around that and still have him on screen.

somebody said he's on vacation for two weeks and one of those weeks Y&R is dark. I guess we'll find out soon enough, they've screwed this show up so badly, I don't even really care anymore.
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I'm sure he will be back if not I can see just by how many faces that are new and some characters destroyed as Adam will sink the show further.
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On that note not because Eric Braeden shouldn't come back because he should. I just won't be. I'm another fan bailing after watching this show since it first aired and I was just a little girl.

Very sad for me to bail. Things have to be looking bad.

Wishing you all well.

Sayonara
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just think of all the free time we'll all have when this show tanks, not IF, but when, closets will be cleaned, fridges and stoves moved, etc etc, all the time we spend bitching about this show, hoping against hope that if we watch it one more time, it will get better, but it doesn't.
I'm almost looking forward to it.
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Jul 9 2012, 09:08 AM
just think of all the free time we'll all have when this show tanks, not IF, but when, closets will be cleaned, fridges and stoves moved, etc etc, all the time we spend bitching about this show, hoping against hope that if we watch it one more time, it will get better, but it doesn't.
I'm almost looking forward to it.
Well I don't know about you but I do enough cleaning.
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Alexandria
Jul 10 2012, 11:43 AM
Sammie Jo
Jul 9 2012, 09:08 AM
just think of all the free time we'll all have when this show tanks, not IF, but when, closets will be cleaned, fridges and stoves moved, etc etc, all the time we spend bitching about this show, hoping against hope that if we watch it one more time, it will get better, but it doesn't.
I'm almost looking forward to it.
Well I don't know about you but I do enough cleaning.
I do to, but there's always more and all the damn yard work. I need to win the lottery so I can hire people. lol
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Well in any event I have to say yesterday's show was good. Except for Adam and Phyllis.

Paul was wonderful.
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